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E15 Ethanol Fuel Can Damage Engines, New Automaker Study Says

Green Car Reports -- A new study released today by the Coordinating Research Council says that E15 gasoline, which contains 15 percent ethanol, could damage the engines of certain high-volume car and truck models.

The two-year study was conducted on eight different engines from the 2001 through 2009 model years, with a pair of vehicles for each engine tested--one on conventional gasoline, one on E15.

Two of the eight engines running on E15 suffered lower performance, misfiring, reduced fuel economy, and damaged valves and valve seats. A third showed tailpipe emissions that increased above the legal limit.


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Submitted May 17, 2012 By: Jumpmaster82
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mgune9
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:40:41 PM

nothing new here - so why will we be forced to use the stuff - it will not save anyone any money -- just higher costs all around
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BazooQC
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:38:03 PM

GREAT!
Now get rid of the useless ethanol.
There is no benefit since they removed subsidies.
And we motorist get less mileage and performance.
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BooHooMI
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:37:31 PM

duh
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mitchell6597
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:37:21 PM

Okayyyyy a great way to sell us all a new car?????
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suzmar
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:37:03 PM

Of course it can, will this stop the EPA, probably not. The current blend that is required damaged the engines on our jet skis. The mechanic told us that the ethanol in gasoline deteriorates the fuel lines, causing the engines to seize up.
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Barfood
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:35:58 PM

What's wrong with govt? I know, stupid question, just get rid of E15 talk altogether.
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joezIN
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:28:57 PM

fu
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CentrevilleWill
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:27:22 PM

There you go. Unless you drive an E85 car this stuff is bad. Font know why it's being ram rodded down our throats.
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BigE350
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:26:36 PM

I wonder what it will do to my '97.
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TDIdave
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:24:12 PM

Wow.
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30mpg80
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:23:57 PM

Give me choice, from E zero to E85. I'll take E zero.
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robaloma
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:22:52 PM

crazy
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:22:06 PM

why
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OKRifle
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:19:04 PM

I don't buy this crap, unless I am in New Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida or Alafbama which you can't find real gasoline!
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TBRR
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:16:46 PM

and obummer wants every one to ruin their vehicles on the E-15 junk. for drivers with older vehicles, the fire hazard becomes very real as the ethanol eats away parts of the fuel system. check with your local fire department to see how many car engine fires they are called to put out.

[Edited by: TBRR at 5/17/2012 10:17:25 PM EST]
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cateyes8264
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:15:17 PM

This has been said since the junk first came out!!!
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ssect8
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:15:02 PM

All ethanol should be banned period, but we have an idiot in the white house.
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mnorthwood13
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:12:58 PM

Uh oh we have a gas problem. haha.
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johnchase
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:12:21 PM

Ethanol only makes corn farmers happy
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Ply440GTX
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:11:34 PM

...EPA: are you listening?!?!?!?!?! I have HAD IT with E10!!! I purchase more in additives than gasoline now!
So far, B3C's Engine Energy addresses and eliminates the negatives of E10+. It's hard to find tho.
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ericbcire
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:10:08 PM

Ethanol is bad news for consumers. Stop burning our food.
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PoohMcGoo
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:08:48 PM

Someone please tell our lawmakers this..
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goodbuy
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:08:38 PM

Thanks government.
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doncNJ
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:05:52 PM

So, what do you think E10 is doing to our cars?
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:05:32 PM

Yup.
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Pond10
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:05:16 PM

Been messing up lawn mowers and small engines.
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hcivic
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:03:45 PM

I haven't seen any stations without 10 percent in its blend
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:02:40 PM

This has been known for several years
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toadNY
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:02:24 PM

It my cause Damage and is Prohibited by Federal Law! So what law says it has to be in gas!
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vibdata
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 4:01:09 PM

This just in: ANY ethanol can damage your engine. More of it just damages it faster and better.
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g747
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:59:49 PM

I don't want that in my engine period!!!!!!!!!.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:55:56 PM

And yet, this current Administration is determined to get this passed. Shows the utter lack of accountability and transparency that these fools in office demonstrates ever since they took office. And these are the same fools that keep pointing the finger at others for their lack of transparency. Come November, please vote these amateurs out of office.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:55:33 PM

So now the gas island will have a diesel nozzle, an all gas nozzle and an E15 nozzle? What a waste of money bit the oil companies are awash in cash so it just might see the light of day. As long as I can buy all gas at a reasonable price I'll be happy.
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TMSMO
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:55:10 PM

Do your own study on 10% ethanol, you will be very Surprised at your findings. Goes back to the old saying, just because some one says its so doesn't mean its so, especially in today's era of very fast, very short periods of study. Time is Money people! Some times not even a study, just a rumor or suggestion, ever read the book on power of suggestion.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:54:32 PM

This is very believable.
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ftsgt
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:53:49 PM

not surprising...now lets get all ethanol out of our fuel
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:53:30 PM

Let's let the useless EPA force this ridiculous ethanol crap on us so we call ruin our engines. Go Big Govt!!! Jerk-offs.
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arb0526
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:53:10 PM

I know this first hand..lost a fue linjector due to the clog
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:52:47 PM

They should stop making this already
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WIWalt
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:52:09 PM

No E15 for me I have older vehicles cannot afford new
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:50:10 PM

read
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sjambok
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:47:30 PM

really? and from Green Car Reports, no less.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:41:19 PM

Now just to wake up the crooked lawyers of Congress to the facts of Ethanol.
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FreeeBee
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:38:24 PM

Who cares if your cars engine is gone quicker or not.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:36:25 PM

Oh.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:35:58 PM

Boy these rocket scientists are really with it.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:34:23 PM

Just keep gas only
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heysailor
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:29:36 PM

Alcohol is not a good thing in gas.
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:25:47 PM

This is old news.
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carpenter4u
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:21:59 PM

I remember when they took the lead out of gas. Hard on the older engines
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:20:44 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 3:15:44 PM

Not going in my 91 unless in am emergancy.
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