flagtown25

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 6:08:16 PM
No more Ethanol
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:20:23 AM
Yuck; ethanol!
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VomVom

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 7:22:46 AM
It wold be wise for the EPA to suspend the ethanol mandate at least for a year; but ideally forever. Switch to non food based biofuel.
[Edited by: VomVom at 9/4/2012 1:23:35 PM EST]
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 5:29:21 AM
Does anyone want to buy an ethanol plant? Cheap?
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MeiThink

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 5:18:08 AM
Get rid of ethanol!!!!!
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mitt4prez

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 2:44:01 AM
Down with ethanol.
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zwsn01

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Alabama
Posts:691 Points:440,150 Joined:Jan 2012
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 10:17:03 AM
corn is for food, not for gas.
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jl1rp

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New Hampshire
Posts:1,814 Points:357,345 Joined:May 2012
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 6:37:31 AM
kill it
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Skunk63

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 5:56:02 AM
Ethanol is crap.
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MontanaMac

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Washington
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 5:38:06 AM
End the ethanol program now.
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investmentdr

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 5:18:54 AM
Funny how the market corrects itself
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kjSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 5:14:21 AM
Good and maybe the next step is to actually shut down the plant.
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tnfran

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Arizona
Posts:4,378 Points:842,190 Joined:Dec 2010
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 4:55:55 AM
SHut down Ethanol garbage plants OR convert them to a "NON FOOD Bio".
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WalkingWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 4:14:12 AM
Ban ethanol!
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EvergreenON

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Ontario
Posts:943 Points:483,690 Joined:Apr 2011
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 1:24:03 AM
They can close that ethanol plant
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el_fr

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 1:16:01 AM
Sop ethanol completely
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 10:16:03 PM
Boohoo..
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sprocketsplines

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Washington
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 8:30:33 PM
The RFS has a fixed target for ethanol which likely is not achievable with the current drought situation. So, to give ethanol production demand for corn as a percentage of the corn produced doesn't make sense. To actually meet the target, ethanol producers could bid the price of corn so high that it would be cheaper to buy and import the corn from a foreign source like Brazil. This defeats the intent of the RFS which was to make the US less dependent on foreign sources of energy.
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
Posts:2,214 Points:556,230 Joined:Mar 2006
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 8:15:29 PM
Ethanol sucks for our cars
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wz

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 8:12:12 PM
The problem with American ethanol plants is that their customer base is insulated from prices. It doesn't matter what they charge oil companies because of the federal mandated use, so the ethanol plants here will continue to operate and make money - providing dividends and equity gains to all the legislators and Congressmen who invested in them way back when.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 8:06:34 PM
American ethanol plants need to follow suit. This whole program has been fraught with dubious economic benefits, grossly subsidized costs, and rampant damage to older auto engines, small engines, and marine engines, while the feds do nothing but advance their "green energy" agenda at our expense.
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krobp46

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 8:02:34 PM
This drought could be God's way of telling the EPA that they are overstepping their boundaries. It's obvious the EPA doesn't listen to anyone else
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LostInNY

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:59:54 PM
Well somebody's experiment went sideways....of course the guys with the corn are laughing all the way to the bank!
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:59:05 PM
I'm not going to say, "I told you so."
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:58:47 PM
Yayyyy....
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:55:10 PM
Serves them right. Not only has the demand made food prices too high but the Ethanol demand for the corn priced themselves out of the market. Ethanol is bad & worse. The public needs to demand gov. stop the Ethanol mandates before it kills all of us. Even the major environmentalist now agree Ethanol has worsened pollution. It saves zero gasoline & starves people as well due to land use for ethanol crops instead of food crops.
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Palantas

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:52:28 PM
Bummer. Can't say I'm too upset about this.
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liao

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:52:01 PM
That's inevitable.
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Hunter114

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:51:48 PM
Food supply must come first. Shut down ethanol.
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streetcars

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:48:56 PM
Oops!
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gasmack

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:48:24 PM
The price of popping corn is going up too!
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Thomtec

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:48:20 PM
ok
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gas4433

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:47:57 PM
Ok
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:46:30 PM
Brazil and shell know Ethanol.
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GAS1251

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:46:30 PM
As long as they make the gasoline without the ethanol, that'd be alright.
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:42:10 PM
Eat corn don't destroy it. Abolish ethanol.
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Cheney

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:39:28 PM
I presume this is some other Windsor.
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:37:48 PM
Get corn out of the gas tank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We could save a lot of money in fuel and repair costs in the blink of the eye.
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Tigercat88

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:35:37 PM
Corn is for FOOD!!!!!!
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MopedTime

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Michigan
Posts:767 Points:360,245 Joined:Mar 2012
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:34:26 PM
Save the corn for food.
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Anne6137

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:27:08 PM
Why aren't they shut down?
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:27:06 PM
Seems like a no brainer.
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:26:47 PM
Ban ethanol.
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LilRedWagonIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:26:39 PM
Wow. The market place at work. High prices stop ethanol production. People gotta eat.
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dave12

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:23:56 PM
Shut them down until these parasites aren't sucking blood from the taxpayers!
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dave12

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:21:00 PM
How about shutting it down for good!
[Edited by: dave12 at 9/3/2012 1:21:28 AM EST]
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lovinguy71

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:20:55 PM
ok
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:18:54 PM
Shut them all down if you want more MPG in our vehicles...
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waterwerks

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New Mexico
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:18:23 PM
Blah...blah...blah
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kitty1750

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Kitchener-Waterloo
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:17:22 PM
I'm with you rd2000
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